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		<title>Comment on Violence &#8211; Slavoj Zizek by Rosario</title>
		<link>http://mediaecologies.wordpress.com/2008/06/09/violence-slavoj-zizek/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi you! ... we&#039;re from argentina, and we need a lot of information obout you, so as to make an essay... please sen me an e- mail.. I&#039;ll be gtrateful... best wishes, Ro</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi you! &#8230; we&#8217;re from argentina, and we need a lot of information obout you, so as to make an essay&#8230; please sen me an e- mail.. I&#8217;ll be gtrateful&#8230; best wishes, Ro</p>
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		<title>Comment on Climate Camp: Mainstream Media Yearn for Riot Porn by billisill</title>
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		<dc:creator>billisill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting post, thanks. check back soon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting post, thanks. check back soon</p>
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		<title>Comment on Climate Camp: Mainstream Media Yearn for Riot Porn by acemiizci</title>
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		<dc:creator>acemiizci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for this point vs guardian and observers articles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for this point vs guardian and observers articles</p>
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		<title>Comment on Climate Camp: Mainstream Media Yearn for Riot Porn by sytaffel</title>
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		<dc:creator>sytaffel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny, thanks for your comment, however I do feel that you somewhat missed the point. 

Having been present for some of the camp&#039;s arrival you write about your intentions to return to &#039;document the subtlties of camp life&#039; as if arriving was the main event and the camp itself was some kind of afterthought. This is somewhat akin to covering a football team arriving at a stadium and then failing to cover the match. This is also very similar to van der Zee&#039;s assertion that having put the toilets up things are boring, which entirely fails to comprehend what the camp at Blackheath is about.

Unlike previous years at Drax Kingsnoth and Heathrow, the camp at Blackheath was not centred around a mass action but was meant to revolve around workshops training and discussions. This was well advertised on their website, alongside the extensive workshop programme, however it seems that mainstream journalists have simply failed to understand this.

I&#039;m far from convinced that taking photos (the medium you work in) of a workshop on geoengineering or climate science would be very interesting or would do a remotely adequate job of conveying the content of the discussions. The original post refers instead to printed text media which complains that the campers have been bored after the set up, as though there has been nothing for them to do, when in fact there have been a plethora of workshops and discussions about climate change and practical steps towards solving the problems, and a second article which ignores all the events which have taken place at camp, complaining of a lack of focus on the issues.

As regards the seperate issue of media access, watch the camp tv film about media policy.

Climate Camp is far from perfect and critiques are certainly welcomed, but they ought to be critiques of policy, events and action - in other words critiques of content rather than the shallow complaints that things are boring because people aren&#039;t fighting police or journalists whinging that as the only people allowed to perform commercial actions on site they are only given 9 hours of access a day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny, thanks for your comment, however I do feel that you somewhat missed the point. </p>
<p>Having been present for some of the camp&#8217;s arrival you write about your intentions to return to &#8216;document the subtlties of camp life&#8217; as if arriving was the main event and the camp itself was some kind of afterthought. This is somewhat akin to covering a football team arriving at a stadium and then failing to cover the match. This is also very similar to van der Zee&#8217;s assertion that having put the toilets up things are boring, which entirely fails to comprehend what the camp at Blackheath is about.</p>
<p>Unlike previous years at Drax Kingsnoth and Heathrow, the camp at Blackheath was not centred around a mass action but was meant to revolve around workshops training and discussions. This was well advertised on their website, alongside the extensive workshop programme, however it seems that mainstream journalists have simply failed to understand this.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m far from convinced that taking photos (the medium you work in) of a workshop on geoengineering or climate science would be very interesting or would do a remotely adequate job of conveying the content of the discussions. The original post refers instead to printed text media which complains that the campers have been bored after the set up, as though there has been nothing for them to do, when in fact there have been a plethora of workshops and discussions about climate change and practical steps towards solving the problems, and a second article which ignores all the events which have taken place at camp, complaining of a lack of focus on the issues.</p>
<p>As regards the seperate issue of media access, watch the camp tv film about media policy.</p>
<p>Climate Camp is far from perfect and critiques are certainly welcomed, but they ought to be critiques of policy, events and action &#8211; in other words critiques of content rather than the shallow complaints that things are boring because people aren&#8217;t fighting police or journalists whinging that as the only people allowed to perform commercial actions on site they are only given 9 hours of access a day.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Climate Camp: Mainstream Media Yearn for Riot Porn by Danny</title>
		<link>http://mediaecologies.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/climate-camp-mainstream-media-missing-riot-porn/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a photographer on the swoop on the 26th of August. The atmosphere amongst photographers/journalists as soon as it was anounced during the first major meeting of the camp that we would have to ask permission to take photographs at the camp the mood amongst many/most photographers became incredulous. 

No photographer needs to have permision to take photographs of an individual in a public space. No photographer needs to have a minder to walk around a public space. As such, while I had intended to come back and document the subtleties of camp life, I did not see the point in returning (I was not alone in this). I might as well have just asked the police on their views on the camp to get a balanced viewpoint, rather than be an unwitting mouthpeice for climate camp propaganda. 

To add to this were the two alleged physical assaults on photographers yesterday by climate camp members. &#039;Just been assaulted by a camper - for taking a pic - outside the camp&#039;-Mark Vallee (Twitter), &#039;Just been kicked in the chest by a camper, defending a photographer from a camper trying to grab his camera to delete a picture&#039; Jono Warren (Twitter). Both are seasoned photojournalists, with a history of covering protests.

For what it is worth I was and am still generally positive about climate camp. 

Climate camp needs to be able to accept critique, it is far from perfect.  If it obstructs journalists in doing their job, it should not wonder why it gets ignored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a photographer on the swoop on the 26th of August. The atmosphere amongst photographers/journalists as soon as it was anounced during the first major meeting of the camp that we would have to ask permission to take photographs at the camp the mood amongst many/most photographers became incredulous. </p>
<p>No photographer needs to have permision to take photographs of an individual in a public space. No photographer needs to have a minder to walk around a public space. As such, while I had intended to come back and document the subtleties of camp life, I did not see the point in returning (I was not alone in this). I might as well have just asked the police on their views on the camp to get a balanced viewpoint, rather than be an unwitting mouthpeice for climate camp propaganda. </p>
<p>To add to this were the two alleged physical assaults on photographers yesterday by climate camp members. &#8216;Just been assaulted by a camper &#8211; for taking a pic &#8211; outside the camp&#8217;-Mark Vallee (Twitter), &#8216;Just been kicked in the chest by a camper, defending a photographer from a camper trying to grab his camera to delete a picture&#8217; Jono Warren (Twitter). Both are seasoned photojournalists, with a history of covering protests.</p>
<p>For what it is worth I was and am still generally positive about climate camp. </p>
<p>Climate camp needs to be able to accept critique, it is far from perfect.  If it obstructs journalists in doing their job, it should not wonder why it gets ignored.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Climate Camp: Mainstream Media Yearn for Riot Porn by benka</title>
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		<dc:creator>benka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for this point vs guardian and observers articles :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for this point vs guardian and observers articles <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Plymouth 5 Released Without Charges by Raiding Parties, Spurious Seizures, and &#8220;Anti-Terrorism&#8221; out of control &#124; The Wardman Wire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raiding Parties, Spurious Seizures, and &#8220;Anti-Terrorism&#8221; out of control &#124; The Wardman Wire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Oh, and of course we have the Plymouth Water Pistol Terrorists who were arrested by a raiding party under &#8220;anti-terrorism&#8221; laws just before the G20 summit where they were planning to protest. This helped create the national narrative, and then turned into a damp squib when they were released after between 3 and 10 days detention because they had done nothing unlawful. There is a more detailed response to this last case on the Bristle Blog. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Oh, and of course we have the Plymouth Water Pistol Terrorists who were arrested by a raiding party under &#8220;anti-terrorism&#8221; laws just before the G20 summit where they were planning to protest. This helped create the national narrative, and then turned into a damp squib when they were released after between 3 and 10 days detention because they had done nothing unlawful. There is a more detailed response to this last case on the Bristle Blog. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bateson &#8211; Steps to An Ecology of Mind by bee</title>
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		<dc:creator>bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting... have you come across this manifesto? 

http://www.dark-mountain.net/about-2/the-manifesto/

it&#039;s an interesting exploration of the myth of the splendid isolation of the human race</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting&#8230; have you come across this manifesto? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.dark-mountain.net/about-2/the-manifesto/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dark-mountain.net/about-2/the-manifesto/</a></p>
<p>it&#8217;s an interesting exploration of the myth of the splendid isolation of the human race</p>
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		<title>Comment on University of Copenhagen Climate Change Synthesis Report by flash</title>
		<link>http://mediaecologies.wordpress.com/2009/06/25/university-of-copenhagen-climate-change-synthesis-report/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>flash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice!</description>
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		<title>Comment on G20 Death: Eyewitness Statements and Police Distortion by GraxyGydram</title>
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		<dc:creator>GraxyGydram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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